Pacemaker placed, after seven years of deliberatio

Hi all! I'm new here and just got a pacemaker implanted three days ago, seven years after my first diagnosis of intermittent third degree av-block. I guess what I'm doing here is just telling you my story because I feel a need to get it off my chest, and share it with people with similar experiences. I've actually never talked with anyone with similar experiences.
I've been living in three different countries since my first diagnosis, and I think about ten different cardiologist have been treating me (well actually only the last one actually treated me). It's been kind of a limbo. I'm this borderline patient. When first diagnosed I was 30, pauses were typically around 3 seconds, three to five times a day and with little symptoms. I was perhaps experiencing a little dizziness, it's hard to be sure, but yes every once in a while I would feel something. Because of my age and lack of serious symptoms doctors were typically conservative. I had yearly holters, showing the same pauses, even an EP study which was felt to be normal.
Different doctors had different names for my condition and offered different prognosis. Some said I had second degree av-block with spells of third degree, some said I had advanced av-block, and still others just plainly called it third degree av-block. Some said sooner or later I would definitely need a pacemaker, and others were convinced that my problem was "vagal", not serious and with a good prognosis. Of course, we often believe what we want to be true, so I liked the "vagal" doctors a little better than the others.
Then some time ago I moved again, to a new country, and luckily got access to a really world class hospital. One day I had a dizzy-spell which was worse than the ones before, I felt like I was going to pass out, and went to the ER. After hospitalizing me for a few days without observing anything else than the typical three second pauses they equipped me with an event-recorder. Three months later the first reading. Boom, symptomatic daytime pauses between four and five seconds, and an appointment for a pacemaker implantation two days later. I half-heartedly tried to wiggle myself out of it, but the doctor was not "vagal" and very clear. "You need this or it's a matter of time before you start passing out or worse."
So here I am, chest is sore, and a dual chamber medtronic pacing my heart whenever there's a need for it, and trying to figure out how I feel about it. What if it's not necessary? I was feeling fine! Then on the other hand, what if it is necessary? What if I would've passed out and hurt myself? What if I wouldn't wake up again? It feels safe to have it there.
Upside of waiting seven years? Well, seven years without the nuisance, and perhaps more important, I got an MRI approved device, which was not available seven years back...


6 Comments

Don't need the nonsense

by Theknotguy - 2014-11-22 01:11:17

You don't need the nonsense ideas. They just waste your time, wear you down, and slow down your recovery.

If you use the Search button on the upper corner of this website you'll see people with PM's are leading very normal lives. In quite a few cases, above normal. We have people with PM's running marathons, biking, swimming, scuba diving, skiing, sky diving, doing triathlons, all sorts of stuff. I'm sure the conservative doctors cringe, but you can't spend your time sitting on the couch, worrying that you'll die any minute.

After you get through the four to six week period where you can't lift your arm above the shoulder on the PM side and can't lift over 10 pounds you now can look forward to a much longer life with a lot more options. And, you won't have to worry about passing out and killing yourself.

Another thing you'll see in the forum is that we have babies with PM and people in their 90's with PM's. Within the last three weeks we've had about four people in their 20's who just got their PM's. You're on the early curve of the scale but not out of line.

Talked with a guy in the Columbus, Ohio area. He had a rare genetic condition that caused sudden cardiac arrest. Ended up dying over 35 times. Had to get a special treatment at the OSU heart hospital to alleviate his problem. Now has a wife and two kids. (Neither child has the genetic condition.)

So if some young lady thinks you're "damaged goods" because you have a PM she's got rocks for brains. If anything she should applaud you for facing the facts and getting your problem treated.

I ended up talking with a Psychologist after I got my PM. She specialized in trauma and heart problems (I had both) and was a real help. You don't necessarily have to talk with a Psychologist but there are people with whom you can talk.

Glad to see things went so well for you. Let us know how things are going. Hang in there. You've got a long life to live.

Pacemaker blues

by golden_snitch - 2014-11-22 01:11:43

Hi Helmut,

I got my first pacemaker when I was 18 (am 33 now) and found that Medtronic brochure quite frustrating, too. I called them and complained about all the pictures of elderly people. Nothing happened for several years, but now Medtronic actually has a brochure for teenagers, at least in Germany. Are you German? Just wondering, because your name is German. I am, and I currently live in Berlin.

Don't let having a pacemaker slow you down or drag you down. Once the wound has healed, you'll be able to do almost everything you did before you got the pacemaker. There are very few limitations, especially for someone with an intermittent heart block "only". You have an easy to fix problem, and now that the pacemaker is in, you'll most likely never have any problems again. The pacemaker or your condition won't shorten your life expectancy, either. With regards to relationships I can understand your worries, and I have these worries, too. But as Theknotguy said, anyone who does not take us as we are, has rocks for brains.

We're all different - for some it takes more time to get used to the device than for others, but I think we all eventually get there. Take your time.

Get better soon!

Inga

The PM is new to you

by Grateful Heart - 2014-11-22 02:11:56

Acceptance takes a little time...certainly more than 3 days.

When you do get to the point of acceptance, you will look at your device in a different way. We are so lucky to have a fix. I have been saying this a lot here but it's true....educate yourself. The more you learn about your condition and device, the more comfortable you will become. Then you can educate your family and friends so they do not treat you like glass. Believe me, it works. LOL

There is always more than one way to look at things. You're 37 and you have a machine to keep you alive.....yay!! Lucky you (us).

You know you are not useless or worthless or on your way out. You just have a lot of time to think about it right now after surgery. It's part of the process and is scary in the beginning. Once you begin to trust and accept your device the negative feelings will disappear.

Any questions or concerns.....we've all been there. This is an embarrass-free zone. :-)

You'll get there.

Grateful Heart

Thanks for the replies

by Helmut - 2014-11-22 03:11:00

It really helps :) I guess it's a process. It really helps to hear your points of view, thanks :) And of course rationally I know that my feelings are unjustified, but it just feels good to hear someone else saying it so clearly.
Inga: I'm not actually German but I live in Germany, thus the German pseudonym :)

and the feelings

by Helmut - 2014-11-22 12:11:53

Oh and another detail. I got this feelgood information booklet from medtronic "living with a pacemaker" filled with pictures of old folks fishing with their grandchildren, having picnics with their significant others, vigourously sawing through a piece of wood, and enjoying the "good moments in life." I know these pictures are supposed to make me feel better, but they strike a different chord in me, a feeling which lurks in the back of my head and makes me feel a little bad. I know this is not the right way to think or feel about it, but I feel that the pacemaker makes me worthless and useless in some sense. I'm 37 and I need a machine to keep me alive. I'm on my way out. I'm already an old man. Women won't like the pacemaker. People will treat me like glass. I can't be reckoned with anymore as a whole man etc etc
I know these are nonsense feelings and I'm slightly embarrassed to bring them up. I try to reason my way around them, but they are still there and I think these lurking feelings are what are making me feel a little bad about this whole thing. Is this something that someone else recognizes?

Old Folks Pictures

by MelodyMarch - 2014-11-23 01:11:14

Helmut- I was 32 last year when I got my pacemaker and I needed it probably as long as you did.

I had a really good laugh at the "enjoying time with grandchildren" photos and stories in my St Jude book. In fact, my EP said if he weren't required by law to give me the info, he wouldnt give it to me as it really is kind of offensive to us younger folk. I found much more detailed and relavent information on the Internet and particularly this site.

As for the way people treat you in lots of ways it is how you feel about yourself. I felt so much better after getting my PM, that people say to me they like me battery powered much better. Also they like to make jokes, as I do, (scared of lightening, don't test the 9 volt batteries by licking etc) your attitude helps set theirs. I still have my social life and there is nothing the pacemaker has prevented me from doing in the past year.

Enjoy the journey, being wired is awesome!

You know you're wired when...

You have an excuse for being a couch potato.

Member Quotes

99% of the time, I totally forget I even have this device.