2:1 Induced block follow-up

Hi All (especially Pam, rnff2 and Tracey),

Posted a follow up to my original post rather late (I was working then....off now), so copied it below & so hopefully you can read this one now:

It is rather good news to hear that I am not alone with this rather unusual issue, as you all seem to know exactly what I am talking about. (If any talk of needing extraneous electrical equipment stuck inside you to keep you alive can be quoted as "good news"....but you know what I mean)!

It becomes frustrating when every time one explains a particular pathology to numerous medical professionals the first thing you hear back is "I've never seen that before". I started to think I was a one off. I've had loads of tests: 48 hr Holter, Coronary CT, MRI and nuclear medicine scans and Treadmill VO2, to try and isolate what was going on.

I've read through all the various posts that relate to Pams' situation and I can certainly see that "something" could possibly done in my case too. Rnff2 I think you are correct in stating that pacing the ventricle long term is not the best option....that is the reason my cardiologist was rather off the idea of a PM for me. To give him his due, I suspect he was also waiting to see how much the situation affected me both physically and mentally, again, rather like Pam. If I went and banged on his door after a couple of months shouting "FIX ME", I'd probably already have a PM now. One other factor that might be leaning him against a PM is that during all my tests, they found that I had a myocardial bridge (one of my coronary arteries goes into and out of my heart, rather than just remaining outside the muscle). This thins my artery, but I have never had any problems with it. Plus, I've had it since birth and I've hung around this far, so it can't be too bad!

I've been attempting to fix myself, firstly by doing as little as possible, to see if everything settled down and just returned to normal - rather optimistic I know, but it had to be worth a try. When that didn't work I "started from scratch" gradually staging up my exercise intensity and length, but trying to keep my heart rate in its normal rhythm. The more insightful readership of these posts will no doubt already be aware that both these plans failed completely, hence the need for me to search out this forum and seek advice on the next step forward! So I already feel a little more positive as this little step has at least been successful, so thank you for taking the time to read and comment, Pam, rnff2 and Tracey.

I'm continuing to try and search for as much information as I can on the subject, but these 2:1 exercise induced blocks seem to be quite rare, in terms of studies. I am certain the HB itself is not rare at all, it’s just that most people who had them would never know they had anything wrong with them unless they are wearing a HRM or actually taking their pulse. Telling a Dr that you "do some exercise and then get really out of breath" just sounds like you are unfit! My other half is a Radiographer and even when I told her what was happening, she initially said that this could not happen and I just needed to train a bit harder and I'd be fine! This is part of the dilemma I'm in: I do appear to be fine for the majority of the time. It is just that all the stuff I did that kept me fit, I did for fun and because I really enjoyed it - not because I felt I needed to keep fit. Windsurfing is the big one for me. Not long ago I was very SOB, in the sea, in a Force 6. It was a bit scary to be that breathless and have to get it together to get back to shore. In this situation prior to having my HB you just need to calm down if you are getting pounded, take some deep breaths and all is well. When you try that and you just end up very, very, breathless instead, it’s no fun. Pam - the lead legs/arms thing is unreal! I have never experienced anything close to it (used to race bikes too, 100 miles + was not that unusual when training - never had anything like this, they literally feel HEAVY). Result......I just have not been out on the water, because I know I really can't do that without a fairly strong chance of either A: needing help to get in, or B: drowning. Neither option is currently on my "must do" list. Outside of exercise though, I honestly have no problems at all, no dizzy spells, no SOB, nothing.

A PM would make work somewhat more complicated (and without being too specific, I have to take medicals and I fly a lot - don't panic - I'm not a Pilot)! So as this decision could potentially affect my career, it is not an easy call to make as to what to do next. I really want to do the things I enjoy, but right now I can't do that to any extent of my previous ability and therefore it is not much fun. I have always been active and I think my recent glum state is down to this is down to this inactivity. With every respect to the bowling/fishing community, I can't see that I would find these more fitting pastimes quite so enjoyable.

What to do?

Spin

Pam - I'm down on the South Coast but at least in the same country (although, not right now, hence the delay in response).


3 Comments

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by Tracey_E - 2013-12-09 01:12:35

Having a pm is less risky than flying when you have a condition that puts you at risk of passing out. That could affect your job more so than having a pm. Check, many people find their job will not be affected by having a pm. ICD's cause more job-related problems than pm's.

Is not doing anything active a long term solution? For me, that would make me crazy, but that's just me.

If you are not symptomatic and can do what you want, then don't rush into any decisions.

What to do?

by rnff2 - 2013-12-09 08:12:09

I'm happy that you have gained some knowledge and information from all of our experiences. Its a tough decision and one I'm glad I didn't have to make, it was made for me, as my symptoms became worse over a short period of time. I would take a close look at your job and the requirements, look at the big picture, maybe a pacemaker will actually benefit you in your job. And in turn allow you to get back to the things you love, which seem to be very "active" activities.
I was on a cruise back in March and when I look back that was when my symptoms first started. We went on several snorkeling excursions and on each one I had to stop early on because I was having palpitations and shortness of breath. I remember how difficult it was for me to swim back to the boat. Being in the water is scary and very unsafe when you have symptoms, so its something to really consider.
Good luck with your research and you decision.

Feeling glum - know what you mean

by PAMMY - 2013-12-10 04:12:00

Hi Spin

Yes it is a hard decision to make and that's why it took me 12 months but one of the reasons I went for having the PM is that I was getting down that I wasn't able to run and was also feeling anxious (could be an age thing!) so I know what you mean when you say you feel glum. It's because we are not getting the endorphins that we are used to having from being so active.
i have to say that since I've had the PM I am feeling better in myself mentally because I am able to run without having to stop every few minutes. However I am still struggling a bit with running long distances or going up any gradients - not sure if that's down to lack of fitness or whether the PM is not allowing me to push as much as i used to. I am trying to get out most days now and do a run even if it's just a mile around the block just to get my fitness back up but I have got an appointment at the PM clinic on Friday so hopefully they will be able to tell whether I need more adjustments to the PM.
At the moment i am more positive than negative about having the PM but still not 100% sure. I think that when I can do a race at a reasonable pace (if ever!) then I will know I have done the right thing. It will probably be a matter of time - I'm just too impatient and want to run marathons NOW!

Take your time with your decision Spin and make sure you're well informed about everything - this site is definitely a great help. It's not an op that the doctors will be willing to reverse.
Pam

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