Awaiting first pacemaker op
- by Anxious Newby
- 2013-06-03 10:06:01
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Dear all,
I am writing to seek some advice as I am a 27 year old who is due to have a pacemaker fitted possibly this week.
Here's my story:
I have always known that I had a slow pulse rate but never thought anything of it. At the age of 23 I fainted twice before work in the space of a month. I had never fainted before in my life so I went to the doctor about it and was subsequently sent for a resting ECG, 24 hour monitor, Echocardiogram and tilt test. I fainted on the tilt test and this, combined with the ECG's lead to a diagnosis of 1st degree heart block. Nothing to worry about I thought.
Nearly 5 years later I became ill with a chest infection and when at the doctors they discovered that my pulse was around 43bpm. I had a follow up ECG on the 17th May with the intention of fitting me with a 24 hour monitor but I didn't get that far. Even though I had driven myself to the hospital and felt quite normal my resting heart rate was 33 and I was in total heart block. The nurses decided to blue-light me to the nearest cardiac hospital where I was fitted to a monitor and not allowed to leave the bed. The doctors were concerned to establish why I was now in heart block so I had a series of blood tests. The surprising thing was that one of them came back with a positive read on the initial screen... Lyme disease, (This is usually caught from a tick bite.... I do not remember ever being bitten). I am currently awaiting the results of the complete Lymes disease test (IgM and IgG separation) and being treated for Lymes as a precaution just in case there is a chance they can reverse the heart block (they have managed to do this in the past). However, there is a strong chance that the initial screening was a false positive result. I was on the cardiac care unit for 8 days then stepped down to the low dependency ward for 5 days before being allowed home on total bed rest. I am due to go in tomorrow to collect my results and for the Cardiologist and Electrophysiologist to decide whether to put a pacemaker in or not. Everyone thinks this is highly likely and I am incredibly nervous.
I've read so many stories about pacemakers hindering people's lives, being able to feel it and hear it working, the leads detaching, the device stopping people exercising and doing what they used to do, the pacemaker being out of rhythm etc and I would really like to get some clarity. I enjoy going to the gym, going to gigs, running, cycling, swimming and on holidays I ski and sail, I am also a scuba diver up to rescue diving standard. I will be fitted with a MRI safe dual lead pacemaker and I suppose my questions are as follows:
- Will I still be able to do all of the above sports? I have heard that I will no longer be able to dive below 18m.
- Will the leads dislodge if I do backstroke or front crawl when swimming (after the initial 6 week period of not exercising)?
- Will I still be able to go to gigs and clubs even though they have loud speakers?
- Will I be able to jump into water off a ledge?
- Is the recovery period the same when you have it replaced?
- Do people feel that the pacemaker rates increase enough when they exercise?
- Do people feel like the pacemaker has generally benefited them and improved their lives?
- Can you feel it or hear it working? Mine will be on all the time for total heart block.
- Has anyone had one fitted under the breast tissue or under the pec muscle? Does this make a difference to how it looks or how you feel about it?
- After you have been recovering for a while does it bother you?
Thank-you so much for any help and advice you may be able to give!
I don't think I'm going to have much of a choice about this but I'm trying to be as informed as possible so I can prepare myself and stay positive.
When one door closes, another opens.
Much love goes out to everyone living with a pacemaker. May they only ever enhance your lives.
5 Comments
Good questions
by Chels - 2013-06-03 12:06:40
Hello, I will try to answer some of these questions from my experience. Also, I will be 28 in a couple weeks, have had pacer since I was 6, I am on my third battery and second set of leads.
*I have no comment on diving, I have never done that.
*I have always done regular swimming, front stroke, back stroke etc with no problems.
*I have been in many clubs/bars/concerts etc and had no problems. When I was 17 I went to a concert at a stadium, was about five feet from stage and main speakers and was fine. Deaf afterwards but heart was fine.
*No problems jumping into water from edge or diving board
*Yes recovery period still 6 weeks when it is replaced.
*I have never had any problems with rate increase when I exercise, but even if you do, that is something you can work with your doctor to tweak and get right once you've had a chance to try it out.
*It has benefited me greatly. I have a complete AV block, my natural rate is about 40. I have not missed out on any experiences, EVER, and have had an awesome, eventful life. I have given birth to two children while having a pacemaker also. (not sure if you're a male or female but I know I wondered about that)
*I have never heard or felt it working, I am 100% dependant also. The only time was when it started shocking my arm (not painful, more like a muscle spasm) and that was because a lead was deterioting and they fixed it right away. And it was only when my arm was in a certain position so not all the time.
*Mine is placed under the skin, so I cannot help with the under pec muscle.
Overall, my life has been nothing less than normal (aside from surgery every so often) I can do everything everyone around me can do, I can do anything I want with my kids, etc. Most of the time I am not even aware it's there. Since your rate has been lower for quite some time it seems, you probably don't even realize you feel less than optimal. Once you have the pacer I think you will notice a huge difference. Let us know how it goes!!
Chelsey
Changed my life
by Alamb2 - 2013-06-04 05:06:27
I have had a pacemaker put in about 4 years ago. Also due to slow heart rate only. Pulse went to 27 bpm. I noticed the difference in how I felt the very next day. It was as if someone cleaned the windows and I had a great night's sleep! I do have a few complications with the PM today, though. Only one wire working and apparently not well. So. I am a candidate for lead and unit change (even though the battery is going strong).
lI too lead a very active life and have had no physical limitations I run with my dog in competitions, ride horses, swim, do heavy lifting with ranch and garden work, and have busy grand kids. i have not gone scuba diving since the implantation, though. I noticed over the past several months I get more fatigued but now that I found out about the electrical static in my lead/unit, I hope replacing them will solve that problem. You should be just fine!
Mind over matter
by #1Goarmy - 2013-06-04 07:06:12
Take it one day at time and you'll be just fine. There r some minor limitations but within reason. Talk to your physician and get the dos and donts ...you'll be ok. I must honestly say, the device has made a major improvement in my life and it will do the same for U!
Post op update
by Anxious Newby - 2013-07-15 04:07:39
Hi all,
Thank-you so much for all of your comments and advice. I was incredibly nervous about my life changing but your stories have given me so much confidence.
My Lymes results eventually came back negative, so the initial read was a false positive, and therefore I have now had my dual lead pacemaker fitted. I had it inserted under the pec muscle as advised.
I was incredibly sick after the op as I was sedated so I couldn't really feel any immediate benefits but as time has gone on I think I feel like I have a bit more energy. However, I have been experiencing a few dizzy spells at strange times; for example when kneeling down or in the sun. Did anyone else have this?
I think I was in pain for about 4/5 days but only took paracetamol and it soon eased off. The op was 3 weeks ago and I have already been on 4 flights (2 short per-planned holidays), danced at a wedding reception and I swam for the first time last week - only breast stroke though as I still don't have full movement.
My scar is exactly 2 inches under my collar bone and is still a bit raised but looking ok. I'm reasonably slim (and female) so it means that I can see the lump of the pacemaker above my breast but it doesn't bother me too much now. There is just one corner that is slightly more prominent. Good bras are key to hiding the bump I think.
I feel like it is most sensitive where the leads are. Are you all the same?
I'm so looking forward to getting back to normal life. I'm calling my pacer "my stamp of life" to remind me how precious life is: Something that a good friend suggested to me.
I really am so grateful for all your comments. I'm so thrilled that you are all enjoying your lives and I look forward to the same. I'm hoping to start a family with my husband one day soon so I suppose this couldn't have happened at a better time. Did anyone have unusual births due to the pacemaker?
I hope you are all enjoying the summer!!
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by Tracey_E - 2013-06-03 01:06:19
So glad you found us!! First of all, I don’t know where you’ve been reading that there are all sorts of things we can’t do because the list is rather short- big magnets and full contact sports. Just about anything else is ok.
Second, all the complications you probably read were here. People come here for 2 reasons, new with questions like you, or they had a complication. For every one person with a complication, there are hundreds out there getting on with their lives. Odds of a complication of any sort is about 4%, less than 1/10th of 1% is serious. The proportion looks way off when you read the posts here, but really, odds are excellent that everything will go smoothly. This is a very minor procedure.
I got my first one when I was 27 for congenital av block. I’m 46 now, healthy and active, own a business, have 2 teenagers (both born post-pm), hike or ski most vacations, do Crossfit 5 mornings a week. It does not slow me down at all.
Now, to your questions...
Scuba- ask them!! It’s ok to do shallow dives with any of them but some are rated to go a lot deeper than others. Ask to make sure you get one that goes deeper
Swimming, clubs, concerts, jumping in the water, all ok! Just don’t sit right in front of the big speakers, you’ll feel funny. It doesn’t do any harm but if you get close enough to a magnet that’s big enough, it can temporarily put you in test mode. As soon as you step away, it goes back to regular mode.
Replacements are MUCH easier than the first surgery. They go in the same place and it’s all scar tissue. As long as the leads are working,they leave them alone so the only recovery is the incision itself. I am on battery #4 now. I got one new lead last time, my other original lead still works fine.
Rate increase with exercise is only a problem for people with ATRIAL issues. In your case, your sinus (SA) node (nature’s pm) works just fine, the signal isn’t getting to the AV node in the ventricles. If the atria beats but the ventricles don’t keep up,it issues a little pulse to mimic what the av node would have done had the signal gone through. The vast majority of people never feel this though a very few say they can. I never have, and I’ve paced just about every beat since 1994. They give most everyone 2 leads because the second lead provides good information, but odds are high you will not pace with it much if at all.
Mine is submammary and I love it. No lump, no visible scar, it’s comfortable when I hike with a heavy backpack and the seatbelt never rubs. Honestly, I think submammary is overkill now because they’re smaller than my first one and it’s buried so deep it caused some problems when my lead needed replaced. Not major, but it wasn’t simple either.
If I was getting my first one now, I’d go for subpectoral. Have them put it between the pectorals, not in one. If your dr has not done it this way or hesitates at all, ask about getting a plastic surgeon to consult. That’s what I did for both my first one and my last one when I got the new lead. The ep specializes in getting the leads where they’re supposed to be, the plastic surgeon specializes in making it look and feel good. A good ep will welcome the help.
Recovery is a little longer when you bury it but it’s not bad. I never took anything stronger than tylenol after the first couple of days. I was walking the day I got out of the hospital, felt pretty much myself but was taking it easy by a week. I was doing light workouts by 3 weeks. It was about 3 months until I could lift heavy and do push ups, bend/stretch any direction without feeling any tugging whatsoever.
It does not bother me at all!!!! How you feel now? That’s how I felt most of my life. My rate was 44 for years, dropped to the 30’s then the 20’s the day I had the surgery. I woke up in the recovery room feeling like I’d been mainlining coffee, drove the nurses crazy because I didn’t want to stay in bed. Now, not everyone feels such a huge difference but our cases are similar. We’re both otherwise healthy and the only problem we have is a low rate so it’s safe to assume that’s causing all your symptoms. If we have to have a heart problem, we have the one with the easiest fix.