Do lots of people die in the PM Club ?

For some time I have been surprised by the number of people who send posts on here and :-

- ask questions
- ask for advice
- ask about other peoples' experiences
- ask for help re drugs, operations, recovery times, exercise etc

They then receive several answers from some helpful, well-meaning people, often lengthy replies involving effort and prior research.

And then we hear NOTHING ! No response; No Thank You "; No " I followed your advice and this is what happened "
not even "That response was rubbish ! "

The people asking the questions disappear and this has got me worried . I believe that many people die before they have time to reply. Are there any other explanations ?

Ian

20 Comments

no a bibical person

by Theknotguy - 2014-01-19 01:01:50

I'm not a very religious person.

In the bible it gives an account where Jesus healed ten people of blindness. Out of the ten, only one came back and said thanks. Jesus asked, "Where are the other nine?"

So we don't have a corner on the marked. We aren't doing as much as Jesus was supposed to have done so I don't even expect one out of ten to say thanks. I was there when they needed me, I helped as best I could. In fact, I don't even look for the thanks.

Remember the 9th beatitiude - "Blessed is he who expects nothing for he will never be disappointed."

Nuff said.

Theknotguy

Good response Theknotguy

by IAN MC - 2014-01-19 02:01:14

.. I, for one, am not bothered about thanks but do have a genuine curiosity as to whether the advice dispensed on here is helpful or not to the recipient and more importantly what the outcomes were.

Only by knowing that can we all learn. Were the 9 people who didn't return to Jesus still blind and they couldn't find him ?

We will never know !

Cheers

Ian

Maybe

by Theknotguy - 2014-01-19 03:01:20

Maybe the other nine were like me. Wandering around in the dark.

Theknotguy

Everyone in here dies...

by donr - 2014-01-19 03:01:36

...but not necessarily right after receiving a response to a post/comment.

I know precisely what you mean, however.

Don

Typical of Internet forums

by brushmore - 2014-01-19 03:01:56

I think that's fairly typical on Internet forums, people as ask questions but seldom thank people or provide feedback. I think people are just apprehensive about bringing back an old thread.

I know I am thankful for the advice here, I have had just about every question I could think about answered with searches.

You will know..

by Duke999 - 2014-01-19 04:01:05

You will know if your advice, comments or inputs are helpful or beneficial to the ones who pose the questions. Because they would seek you out and let you know. If not, it is what it is. However, your comments might be helpful to someone else. Your efforts are not wasted. Like the Nike commercial says, "Just Do it".

Good Topic..................

by Tattoo Man - 2014-01-19 04:01:14


........................IAN, I too have had the same inquisitive thoughts, and no doubt, so will others..

I still have a pretty clear memory of my very first posting.

I had been reading stuff on this Forum for quite a while and whilst I found the information really interesting. I had a feeling that the question I wished to pose was somehow a bit 'lightweight' next to the 'serious' questions that I had seen, posted by people who, to my eyes, had really serious issues and were asking stuff about Numbers and all those Fibs, Wibs and Dibs that meant absolutely nothing to me. They were more important.

PM Club did seem a bit of a 'closed shop' to me...there were all the Names..all so knowledgeable in so many aspects of the Planet Pacemaker...we all know who the Names are....and still are,..well, bar one..

It took a bit of courage on my part to register and post my question. I clicked onto ' Add Comment ' and thought...." You have asked an irrelevant question, but, hey..they cannot see your face or know where you live , so ..stuff it ,..its done "

There must be so many people who contact PM Club because they are genuinely unable to get clear, understandable,compassionately put advice and support.

Many have the option to pay hard cash to get decent advice......another Topic, maybe ?

Many people who contact PM Club are just scared.

On the monetary front, there may be those who, simply see that , something for free, is , just that...an anonymous Social Service.

I now forget just how long ago it was that I posed my question to to PM Club....but,..I will never forget who was the first to respond with all the kindness that has kept me, strangely a part of this wonderful group of people

So, my thanks are very long overdue...

..............'Hi IAN MC......Thank you for being the first to reply to my Posting regarding Running and having a Pacemaker......."

How very rude of me not to have said Thank You before.

Tattoo Man.....A PM Pal

Just back from a headtorch 3 mile country run..ok , slow, but, Such Fun .

Is it me,..or do we get lots more sports people regularly on this Forum..?


death rates

by Tracey_E - 2014-01-19 04:01:15

I would say the rate of people who die after posting once are probably very much outnumbered by the people who:
- can't find their way back
- find their way back but can't figure out how to comment
- find their way back, figure out how to comment but can't log in
- find their way back, figure out how to comment, and know how to log in but aren't comfortable chatting online
- have never chatted online before and it never crosses their mind to interact again after reading the answer to their question
- heal and feel better and don't want to hang out with all those heart patients

Where should I say Thank You

by Marie12 - 2014-01-19 04:01:16

Should a thank you be posted within the original comment or on a new post? I've always gone into the first post to say thank and perhaps if you gave advice and didn't go back in you would not see the thank you.

Which way should it be done? By the way....Thank you.

Stage Name Identity

by donb - 2014-01-19 04:01:47

May contribute a lot as some members will not even publish any info in their biography. I feel they look at us being another Google substitute & hope no one will fill their computer with "Spam". I know when I find a private message notice in my spam file that it will be someone I'll acknowledge.
Using a stage name as "Joe Blow" should not effect anyone's responsibility of return messaging and for the most part it does not within our group.
As for the "other nine" it's kinda "see you" How's that possible if no one reminds them regularly that they can see. Gratitude given or received on this site is invaluable to all our members.
I also would encourage every member to tell their family to post information reporting serious health or losing someone who has been a club member. Fortunately this has been done in some cases.
DonB

Thanking and commenting

by Alma Annie - 2014-01-19 06:01:37

Yes, like Marie12, I don't use a new post, but reply on the original post. Yes I have often had good advice from others' queries, which I have been able to apply to myself.
Thanks are good, it is a common courtesy, but if we know we might have helped someone who doesn't reply, that is ok too.
Yes I have asked my husband that if I were to die, to let PM club know. (not that I think this will happen in the near future!)
Alma Annie

PM death rate!!!???

by RaFarmerjr1 - 2014-01-19 09:01:32

I really, really, REALLY don't think members here are just dropping like flies.

Most forums I've ever been on are pretty much the same way. Ever send a text message and not receive a reply? Or call someone and they never called back? You didn't immediately assume that they had just fallen over dead, did you?

I think many of us (myself included) intend to get back on and reply but we get caught up in family, work, and other distractions in life. :)

I'm hoping.....

by jeanlancour - 2014-01-20 01:01:46

.....they are having so much fun and feeling so good they don't have time to reply. Altho there are those I would really really like to know how they are, but I'm afraid to ask! Feel good, have fun Jean

RaFarmerjr1

by IAN MC - 2014-01-20 04:01:31

You are so wrong, When you get to my age, if friends don't answer texts or call me back I immediately assume that they have died.

If you met my friends you would understand why :)

Cheers

Ian

Answer

by Jonny - 2014-01-20 09:01:42

Ian - they/we all die, just a matter of when........................, but in nearly every case it is later than if we didn't have a PM, and that's what counts.

Jonny.................

by Tattoo Man - 2014-01-21 05:01:38


.............a quiet word in your ear.....

IAN MC is a smashing bloke but lives in a different time/space location....IANs world languishes in a time where Logic, Common Sense, Intelligence, Education and Intellect rule...a veritable Leonardo amongst the PM Community.

IAN needs to be canonized in the roster of PM Club..

Surely it is only time before his getting a letter from The Queen.

Arise Sir IAN...

TM

Hold on TM

by Casper - 2014-01-21 06:01:18

Good evening Mr. Tattoo Man

Let's go with Knighthood first. I think that's a better idea.

In order for Ian to be Canonized, don't we have to wait for him to depart from this hemisphere.

Why don't you get that paperwork completed and send it to the Queen, who knows maybe he'll invite you to the ceremony.

You can take all the pictures and post them here.

Bravo chap!

Casper

I'm not dead!

by Janey L - 2014-01-22 02:01:04

Hi Ian
Thought I'd let you know I'm not dead, but very much alive!

Haven't been on here much as I've been so busy working full time in my NHS job I started last June, I hardly get any free time to go on my computer at all.
You may remember the "bank" NHS admin job I got last year. It's going great, really love it. Launched into full time hours straight away, hadn't worked full time since 1995! Hubby still works at the same hospital, although we work different hours, & he still really enjoys it too.

I had a "blip" in October with the heart & had to have another AV delay optimisation. Really bad time with pressure up my neck veins again & other symptoms. They found that the optimal settings had changed when they did the echo optimisation (I had a previous optimisation in February last year). The day after I had it done, all my symptoms had gone again & I've been doing great since.

Also diagnosed with reflex syncope in October, but my EP has got that under control.

I do read the posts on here on the rare times I get on my computer, just don't get time to reply much. However, at work the staff have been making pledges on doing something positive for patients. It got me thinking about the forum & I thought that everytime I get to read the posts, I'll try & reply to at least one person on here. So I replied to someone on Sunday....& today I'm replying to you. It's great to be back!

Best wishes
Janey

No! No! No!

by Casper - 2014-01-22 03:01:17

Ian,

Hopefully you'll have a looooooong way to go before you leave this hemisphere.

Please make Mr. Tattoo Man proud and answer The Queens messages.



Casper

Tattoo Man / Casper

by IAN MC - 2014-01-22 05:01:11

So it is you two who have persuaded the Queen that I should have a Knighthood ! All is clear now !

The Queen has been pestering me a lot lately . She keeps telephoning, texting. writing , not to mention all her E-Mails. To be honest she is becoming something of a nuisance.

In desperation I have written to Her Majesty and explained that I simply do not have time to go to Buckingham Palace

- I play golf Mondays and Thursdays

- I play tennis Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays

- I run with my running club Saturdays and Sundays

- If I don't take Mrs IANMC to the pub every day she starts to shake uncontrollably

- AND parking the car near to the Palace is a nightmare

But the Queen doesn't give up easily . I wish she would back off !

However I have a cunning plan ! In future I will not thank her for her letters and texts, I won't even acknowledge them. Eventually she will assume that I am dead !!!

Cheers

Ian

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