Celery Juice

celery

by new to pace.... - 2024-09-06 11:56:45

i try to stay away from celery as i find it is a dieurictic  and also it contains nitrates.

new to pace

Beware of grapefruit juice

by crustyg - 2024-09-06 11:59:35

This specifically inhibits the gut brush-border enzyme complex that breaks down a lot of medications - over the counter and prescription only.  Folk *tend* to have this first thing in the morning, and funnily enough a lot of medication is taken then.

Read ALL of the product insert leaflets of anything that you take - prescribed or purchased from the pharmacy before you start drinking lots of any juice.  People died with one of the best over-the-counter, non-drowsy antihistamines whilst having regular grapefruit juice (Torsades-de-pointes since you ask).

Just because 'it's natural' doesn't mean it can't harm you: foxgloves, deadly nightshade, laetrile etc.

Juicing isn't a great idea!

by Penguin - 2024-09-06 13:40:22

I’ve never read that celery juice can tackle the gut bacteria h.pylori that you have been posting about recently.  Is that your aim or are you just trying to boost your gut bacteria? 

Personally, I would ditch the juicing and eat the whole fruit / vegetable to obtain it’s full range of benefits.  I suspect that It’s the variety and quality of fruit / vegetables that you eat and the fibrous content (which is removed by juicing) that’s going to contribute the most to gut health. I did meet someone who was an advocate for juicing, but took expert nutritional advice instead. I decided that my own gut requirements would not respond to a juice based diet because juicing strips out too much of the good stuff and can even concentrate substances like sugar contained within fruit / veggies. If used to replace a varied diet it may contribute towards restrictive eating and I doubt that is helpful.  

Celery has a high water content and it’s fibrous in it’s whole form. Hydration and fibre have a positive effect on the digestive system. Celery is also purported to lower BP as it contains a phytochemical which helps relax the muscle wall, but I’m not sure that drinking celery juice will achieve that on it’s own and it's probably unwise to rely on a vegetable to provide medicinal benefits that will be powerful enough to make a difference alone. It contains vit.C so it has antioxidant properties and also contains flavonoids which are supposed to help with inflammation. So it’s a great veggie - but I think I’d eat it whole rather than juice it to derive it’s maximum benefits.

Celery caution

by Julros - 2024-09-06 16:11:53

Celery has a relatively high sodium content, so people with heart failure may need to limit it. 

Where angels fear to tread.......

by piglet22 - 2024-09-07 07:46:02

I can't see the attraction of celery, but that's personal. A pan scourer might taste better.

I stick to orange juice in the morning and tomato juice at night.

I used to like grapefruit, but that's off the menu with nifedipine (Coracten).

It's interesting to find out just how many common plants are injurious and speculate how many people died finding out.

Belladonna, ergot, euphorbia, mushrooms, opiates. Crush a laurel leaf for a whiff of cyanide.

I'm in agreement with Penguin on the whole, but differ on the juicing. I would have thought that juicing would make digestion easier. I spent many professional hours looking at human waste and some food items like tomato seeds and sweetcorn manage to get through the digestive tract unharmed. In fact tomato plants spring up after a sewage "spill" if you are into forensic waste water incidents.

Same applies to nuts which need a prolonged chew. Sweetcorn is exceptionally tough. You could almost recycle it.

A big fan of roughage, my pan scourer. Wholewheat and husk if you can get it, Bran and wheatgerm. I never peel potatoes or fruit.

I avoid dried fruit after consuming a lot of dried apricots. Never again.

I will only take supplements and concentrated juices if I have a known deficiency

by Gemita - 2024-09-07 10:45:50

Nina, if a member is taking blood thinners, for example Warfarin, together with high amounts of concentrated celery juice at the same time of day, it could interact with some of these common meds that slow blood clotting.  This could increase the risk of bruising and bleeding.  Celery contains Vitamin K, so you would need to speak to your doctor if you want to start drinking high amounts of celery juice regularly.  You may need more frequent blood checks to stay safe.  However I don't think you are on any meds at the moment?  

I don’t like the taste of celery but I do like celery leaves which I often add to soups.

When I was found to be deficient in certain vitamins/minerals by blood/skin/hair analysis testing in the past, I had immense success by supplementing my diet with high grade Vitamin C (non acidic form), Vitamin B Complex, Vitamin D, Selenium, Zinc and Magnesium.  But to take high doses or high amounts of any particular vitamin or mineral in concentrated juices or supplements, in the absence of a known deficiency could in my opinion lead to problems too.  I accept you are trying to avoid PPI's and antibiotics but sometimes these are necessary to clear up the problem.

Perhaps I am old fashioned, but I feel that a wholesome, well balanced, varied diet is all that most of us need for a healthy gut, as well of course as adequate sleep, exercise in the fresh air, learning how to relax, how to be happy and how to cope with stress.   I used to juice quite a lot, but I found juices constipating.  On the other hand, I can never never get enough roughage

The Mayo Clinic's Opinion on Juicing vs Blended Nutrients

by Penguin - 2024-09-07 18:45:41

The Mayo clinic have an interesting article on juicing in their healthy eating section - juicing. They talk about the difference between juicing and blending to make a 'smoothie' type consistency which is quite different to juicing.  Important distinction. 

Re: What all of this may mean for Nina - How much are you intending to juice, for how long, for what purpose?  Are you just thinking about celery or other juices too.  The consensus above (from forum members) seems to be that celery juice (in large quantities) may carry some risks. 

H.Pylori is very common.  I guess it depends on how you feel about living alongside it vs eradicating it.  There's lots of new research coming out about the gut. Maybe view some material from the many emerging gut health experts and see if there's anything about H.Pylori and whether there's any new / different advice that might help you decide what to do. 

Difficult decision for you.