Apple 🍎 5? Anyone ?

I have a Garmin Forerunner 35.  Anyone own the Apple5 that can offer feedback? 

lookimg online some impressive claims are made about its heart monitoring functionality

two negatives .... It's expensive and see some negatives on battery life 



by AgentX86 - 2019-11-21 20:11:17

I believe it also requires the Apple infrastructure.  I ain't goin' there. Not happening.


by Pacer2019 - 2019-11-21 20:25:12

Do you mean having an iphone to pair it with?


by AgentX86 - 2019-11-21 23:46:25

IPhone, iPad, Mac. Nope not happening.


by Pacer2019 - 2019-11-22 01:09:15

I own one of each so I would be good to go there 


by AgentX86 - 2019-11-22 08:15:01

I had an iPod (essentially an iPhone-5 without the radio) and hated it. The software was pure crap. I'm not spending a dime more on a closed system.

love my apple watch

by Tracey_E - 2019-11-22 17:29:14

Ya know, I don't even know if mine is a 4 or 5! I got it a year ago and they'd just gotten in whatever model I got that week. It has the cardiogram app and the thingy that catches afib. It is extremely accurate when working out. I replaced a garmin. I miss having built in running intervals, but use another app for that now instead along with Strava rather than apple's workout app because Strava's gps is more accurate. The watch will run any app you have on your phone. I really love it.  I got the one with cellular so I can run without my phone on me, still get texts and make calls. 

I put it on the charger every night, so it needs charged more often than a garmin would. It has a nightstand feature so it works like a clock at night while on the charger. The only time it hasn't lasted all day was when I did a half marathon, was tracking my run on strava, running the interval app, and playing music for the whole race. It was at 50% and may have made it all day but I popped it on the charger while I was in the shower, then it was good to go the rest of the day. 

I was debating a newer Garmin or Apple watch. My very anti-Apple husband did a bunch of research and shockingly he decide the Apple was better. This from the guy who has given me nothing but crap about going to the dark side since I switched from Samsung to Iphone 3 years ago. He likes the security of the cellular service, so when I run I have a quick way of making a phone call or alerting 911. 

Do not get in the habit of monitoring your heart rate all the time! All the (perfectly normal) fluctuations will make you crazy. 

Great feedback

by Pacer2019 - 2019-11-22 19:15:25

I knew I could count on you to chime in ! 

I get the not being obsessive about it .... I know I have been - in fact I am tracking my BP at the advice of my Dr - I record the reading off the BP machine , what my garmin says , and take a Manuel reading with my finger . 

The apple cardio stuff on the 5 sounds impressive .... I read it sends you an alert 🚨 if it detects something abnormal - that’s also a good thing bad thing I know !  

I sometimes wonder what if I was tracking my heart when I used to hit those 21-15-9 wods !!!

or trying for a 500 meter rowing PR ? 7 minutes of burpees ? The Bear Complex ! 

Will the Apple GPS a run and show you your path ? 

Ot does sound like I could run without my phone ? 

apple watch

by Tracey_E - 2019-11-22 21:50:34

Everyone is obsessive at first. As you heal more and get past the initial bumps, make a point of not checking unless you feel bad. 

It does have alerts for afib. It also knows if you fall, if you don't respond within a certain amount of time and tell it you're ok, it calls for help. 

Before I had the watch, I would regularly get dizzy doing workouts, back off a bit until my rate came down, then get back to pushing. Esp on the 21-15-9's! Having the watch I've learned that I get dizzy when I stay over 165 for a few minutes. So now I keep an eye out when I'm going at it hard, ease up a bit when I'm over 160. I almost never get dizzy anymore, except the other day doing handstand push ups but those don't count, right??Everyone gets dizzy on those :oP 

I haven't used the apple running app much. I knew going in that the gps was more accurate on Strava so that's what I've always used. I know it tracks distance but not sure if it does the map like Strava. I can tell you that if you don't tell it you are working out, it is CRAP at figuring it out. I was 10 miles into a half marathon when I got a message "It looks like you are running!"  I know I'm slow, but really?? lol So yeah, not a fan of the apple workout app. Strava is free and much better. The only thing Strava doesn't do that Garmin does is intervals, but there are other apps for that if you want it. It also tracks nonrunning workouts. And it coordinates with cardiogram so you can get fun graphs of your heartrate during workouts. If you want, I'd be happy to send you some screenshots so you can see what it captures. 

There are two versions of the watch, with and without cellular. I have with. I think the watch was $100 more (ish) and it's $10/month on my cell plan. I can do everything with the watch that I can with the phone, with or without the phone nearby because cellular basically makes the watch into a phone. The phone and watch connect via bluetooth so if you don't have cellular, you can still track a run, play music, etc without the phone. It's like having it in airplane mode if the phone isn't tethered. 

You are going to do every last one of those workouts again. 

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by AgentX86 - 2019-11-23 01:04:06

The one thing the Apple iWatch-4 and 5 have that no other watch has is a monitor that will "reliably" detect Afib, though no other arrhythmia (it'll say "possible Afib" or nothing). IMO that's not worth the extra money and the being forced into a closed infrastructure.  A Kardia Mobile will do the same, though you have to actively test.  It doesn't continuously monitor like the iWatch.

apples and oranges

by Tracey_E - 2019-11-24 09:02:29

Agent, he's looking at replacing a running watch with a smart watch that catches afib so I would assume that means he still primarily wants the running watch functionality, possibly the additional smart watch functionality. Heart monitoring is a nice bonus, but not the sole reason for choosing the watch. 

You sound like my husband re: Apple products lol. Yep, it's a closed system with proprietary everything. But it works flawlessly and everything syncs between devices effortlessly, so I'm ok with that. I've had android phones and tablets, I've had a Garmin watch, I regularly cuss at my Windows computer. (Shhhh, don't tell my husband I've got my eye on a Macbook) I haven't regretted the switch even once and we are destined to forever be a house divided. To each his own :)

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