Solidarity

Ian seems to forget...

by donr - 2018-03-25 04:12:22

...That most of the first ten Amendments to our Constitution were motivated by the actions of his King George III.  This includes the SECOND Amendment that he opposes so greatly.  KGIII thied to control the supply of arms by controlling the availability  of gunpowder.  You see, the Colonies were NOT a huge armed camp of armed rabble.  Not even of rabble.  It was a whole bunch of common citizens lead by educated, prosperous, gentlemen, intellectuals, businessmen and tradesmen.  The oppressive laws of the late 1760's irked the pure living crap out of most citizens and lead to the revolution.  For a full year - 1775, this continent of European ex-pats was a bubbling, seething cauldron of discontent, just waitng for the spark to set off the tinder.  Then it came , quite by accident, in April of 1775 at Lexington & Concord, when the Redcoats were on a mission to confiscate/destroy a cache of Colonials' arms.  Just think, Ian, were it not for an impetuous govt out to control the populaces' right to own & bear arms, I might still be lying under a tree on a plain  between Dresden & the Elbe tending the flock of sheep willed to me by my great Grandfather!  And to confirm what some have muttered over the years, I am truly the descendent of a German Shepherd!

But back to my polemic...It was in the year 1940 that this gun-loving pack of wild -eyed rabble, led by the Hated-by-the -left NRA came to the salvation of the "Home Guard", when they gahered up thousands of privately owned arms to ship to England to enable them - if necessary - to fight them on the beaches, on the landing fields,in the towns... (By the way - we never got them back).

Some think that we are awash in a sea of weapons.  Not necessarliy so - when I was a youth - in the late 1940's & 50's,  rifles were common as common as grass.  Every boy (& some girls craved a .22 rifle.  we went out alone (often) in the woods & we all came back.  Mass killig was not the norm, or even the sub-norm.  It just did not happen.  what has happened is a change in people & society.  We have suddenly decided that we should not be judgemenal - to the point that we have become even more judgemental in the opposite direction.  Hillar Clinto wa scorrect - it does take a village to raise properly behved children.  But not quite as she described it.  n my home town, when I was a kid, if you got out of line in public, before you got home your parents knew about it & there was the Devil to pay for trans/indiscretions.

Robin hit the nail a partially glancing blow - it is not just mental health that is the problem - it is lack of self discipline and control - attributes taught by responsible parents and reeinforced by our schools and public officials.  I submit that the killers in CT, CO, VA & FL were not medntally ill in the classic sense.  Strip away the myths, criminal defences and blrrding hearts  who want to make sociey totally to blame for their actions and you will find youngt men who were angry and never learned self control, self discipline or resonsibility for their own actions.  They wanted soneone else to do their job!  It is soooooo easy to blame someone/something else for your own shortcomings. 

Consider all the newly -found wisdom among the high schoolers in FLA at Parkland, who have all the answers to gun violence.  They are going to ssave the world - and a lot of adults looking for easy answers are willing to follow them. I fear what will come out of this ill-driven charade.  It ius tyupical of our modern day life that we think another law wqill solve all problems.  WE will chatter and squabble like a bunch of magpies, settle on some half-baked law that about half of us think is the salvation of humanity and the other half KNOWS will lead to nothing.  Go off into our own corners and either celebrate or comiserate our fortune or misery.  And do NOTHING to follow through.  In the US we already have more than enough laws on the books to promise peace & safety - but they do not.  Why?  simple - because no ome really enforces them!  Look at the cities w/ the worst gun violence - Chicago, New York, DC, St Louis, Miami, New Orleans.  They also have some of the strictest anti-gun laws.  Laws don't help - criminals don't obey laws - only the good citizens do that.
Until we come up with a "Self-enforcing law," there will be violence.  WEe all forget that the first murder took place when there were only 4 humans in this world.  The perp was not insane - he was just jealous.  The weapon was probably a rock - why didn't they outlaw rocks?  It's people who make killers - the weapons are always handy.

Remember - the Second Amendment was meant to give the people a defense against oppressive Govt's - not to allow us to be hunters.

Donr.

THANKS

by doublehorn48 - 2018-03-25 15:54:14

Thanks Ian for your solidarity.

really...

by The real Patch - 2018-03-26 17:23:47

Well I see once again Robin1 made some snarky comments then deleted her reply.

and Donr if memory serves you're a moderator, better known as a bathroom monitor. As such shouldn't you avoid and discourage political discussion and just stick to checking peoples hands after they polish the porcelain? Seriously, I know you don't give a crap but I for one take umbrage at your reply. Ian may have pushed the line of appropriate topics, but your reply is way over that line.

Well Said

by smokygolfer - 2018-03-27 09:57:49

Well said donr. I prefer politics not be subjects of posts on this site, but when they do occur I appreciate thoughtful and accurate rebuttal. Yours was on the mark.