AV Node ablation (Again)
- by AndyT
- 2016-05-27 07:05:31
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Hello folks, my last post here was almost two years ago when I was looking for some information concerning AV Node Ablations which it looked like at the time was my next course of action.
Iâm hoping there are some new users here that have had this procedure or can point me in the direction of some adviceâ¦..or reassurance!
I have a fairly complicated cardiac history which started in 2009 with an episode of SVT caused by Wolf Parkinson White Syndrome which I knew I had and had never caused an issue, for whatever reason I ignored this assuming the SVT would stop as they always did, however it didnât and I ended up with an emergency WPW Ablation as I had developed a Cardiomyopathy and LVF. This pathway was ablated and following this ablation I had frequent episodes of Atrial Fib. Some of which resulted in the return of the Cardiomyopathy and jaunts into LVF and organ failure.
Since 2010 Iâve had had three ablations for Atrial Fibrillation and two for Atrial Flutter including two (or was it three? PVI) It has been found through bitter history I do not tolerate high BPM and quickly end up with LVF which on at least two occasions has resulted in other organ failure issues (Liver/Kidney. now fully resolved).
During this time it was noted that following each ablation I was becoming more and more difficult to cardiovert back to sinus and there are very few medications that could hold me in Sinus, Amioderone was the most successful, now not an option due to a Thyroiditis which they think triggered one of my episodes. Following an episode of Syncope in 2014 with a heart rate of 24 BPM, thought to be Beta Blocker induced â it wasnât, on stopping the BB my heart rate increased by 4 BPM my Cardiologist stated that a Pacemaker would be the way forward to at least control the Bradycardia and potentially in the future be ready for 100% pacing if a Node Ablation was performed. (I am 48).
He believed that as I was spending considerable time in AF which was (to be dramatic) utterly ruining my life and on two occasions had led to almost to my passing that we should consider the Pacemaker.
I was implanted in April 2014 and had a very good period of normality up until Feb. 2016. I have a Rate adaptive Medtronic biventricular device implanted, pacing at present 100% on the RA and LV lead. (RV is off at present due to a twitch that developed and the Cardiologist said I did not need it at present).
In Feb 2016 I developed a Tachycardia of 140 BPM, by pure luck (I was on an ECG monitor and the Pacemaker Device interrogation equipment) and the Cardiologist spotted that the device was actually driving a slow Atrial arrhythmia, my programming was changed to DDIR and the rate changed to 80BPM, all good she said! When I mentioned that my resting rate was programmed at 55BPM she went off to look at my ECGâs and count P-waves, she returned and stated I had a slow regular Atrial arrhythmia which she would terminate by DC cardioversion.
Cardioversion was performed and I was returned back to my 55BPMâ¦..since then my rhythm control has been appalling, DDIR simply does not work for me, I lapse into irregular rhythms/rates at the slightest effort.
Yesterday I dropped back into a rate of 80BPM which has not terminated despite my usual cocktail of medication/hope! I have an appointment with my cardiologist in mid-June, hopefully I can last until then and my rate does not increase further leading to another cardiomyopathy.
So onto my questions if I may?
I have now decided enough is enough, I wonât be able to hold onto my job if Iâm continuously having episodes of AF resulting in me being unable to work again ( Iâm a nurse working Offshore),
I feel Iâm hanging on by my fingertips at the moment. This AF/LVF has sadly contributed to the breakup of my 25 year marriage, she had simply had enough of it all â harsh but I canât blame her, being told on two occasions to gather the family as I was not expected to see the night through takes its toll!
Several cardiologists have told me you are not supposed to die from AF, however I have made two very good attempts (not through choice) at it!
So the final resort in an attempt to gain some long term control â AV Node ablation, can anyone comment good or bad who has had one, knows somebody who has had one.
Searching online its either âgo for it, itâs greatâ , or âdo not have it doneâ. One particular site is very negative towards the procedure!
Iâm permanently paced as it is now, what concerns me is if I would be able to feel the Atrial palpitations (even though they are not transmitted to the ventricles, I do have some fairly violent ectopic beats when Iâm in my odd rhythms and these are unpleasant at best.
Is there anyone here who has had a nodal ablation and can shed some light onto what it feels like and what impact it has on life in general, Iâm a fairly fit guy who cycles a lot when not in an irregular rhythm and would not like to give that up, however health comes first!
My cardiologist has stated I will be able to exercise as normal following a nodal ablation, anyone confirm or deny?
Apologies for the long post!
Looking forward to contributing to the group.
Your thoughts are most appreciated. Thanks
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I know where you are coming from...
by AndyT - 2016-05-30 05:05:19
Hi Jane,
thanks for the reply.
I'd be interested to hear what your specialist has to say concerning the AVN Ablation once you have seen him/her.
My main worry is that once its done and if I revert back into another irregular atrial rhythm I will still be able to feel this and I still end up with a failing LV.
I have what my Cardiologist calls 'Ventricular Stunning' after my episodes and it takes a day or two (depending on episode length) for my LV to start to function normally again....even with it being paced. I feel as if I have no energy in the large muscle groups (legs) and heavy breathing following minor exertion.
Maybe an AVN ablation would cure this, maybe not, its a risk I'm not comfortable with at present at my age.
Thanks Jane
Take care.
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by Jane S - 2016-05-27 09:05:22
\I am having "similar" problems but on a scale of much less than you and seeing a specialist on Tuesday re' AV node ablation.
In lots ways we both have nothing to lose as we ae dependant on the PM and yes there are risks with any procedures but it's getting the best quality you can. From what I've read and the response's on this site is that yes there is most definitely a good life after the ablation.
Speak to your Dr about your concerns and do tell them about the impact on your life as I really don't think "they "really get how bad and difficult electrical problems can be. I know I sound like a stuck record but here are days where I feel so rotten, yep I do feel sorry for my self.
Don't give in!!
fingers x that you get sorted soon and you family life takes a turn for the better
Jane xx